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Naked lethargic crab, please help

Discussion in 'Emergency Care - 911.' started by crabalicious, Jul 10, 2009.

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  1. crabalicious

    crabalicious "Preparing For First Molt"

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    This morning I found one of my crabs out of shell. He's barely moving and looks like he's dying! He was great yesterday. He is the most active climby crab too. I don't see any ripped off limbs or anything obvious. We did introduce new crabs yesterday. They're about the same size, maybe a tad smaller. Is there anything I can do to help him?



    How long have you had the crab(s) in question?
    3 months

    Do you know what species they are?
    PP

    Did you/Do you isolate new crabs?
    yes

    Tank Size:
    20

    Lid Type:
    glass

    Placement of tank in your home:
    living room

    Substrate Used (moist or dry & depth):
    coco/sand mix, moist, 5-6"

    Type of Gauges: Strip/Analog/Digital
    analog

    Did you test your humidity gauge for accuracy?
    yes

    Placement of Gauges:
    side wall, mid height

    Temperature and Humidity levels in your tank: Degrees %
    82, 78

    Heating Source (if UTH how much of the tank does it cover and how much substrate is over it):
    UTH but not on currently

    Lighting Source (type bulbs & wattage):
    natural sunlight in the room, but not near a window

    Do you have at least one area for each crab to hide?
    yes

    Is there any metal in your tank?
    no!

    What types of climbing things/toys do you have in your tank?
    coco hut, log, choya, background thingy

    What type of water do you use (dechlorinated tap/spring water)?
    dechlorinated

    If you use dechlorinating drops-which kind?
    the ones made by TRex

    Do your provide fresh and salt water? If yes, what type of salt mix do you use?
    yes, T-Rex again

    Do you provide dishes for water or just sponges?
    both

    How many extra shells do you have for each crab?
    2, rotated every week

    Did you boil the shells prior to putting them in the tank?
    yes

    Do you bathe your crabs? If yes, how often and what do you use to bathe them in?
    generally only newbies

    Do you only handle your crabs with clean hands?
    yes

    How often do you handle them?
    daily

    Have they been exposed to toxins such as chemical/cleaning fumes, perfume, spray deodorant, etc?
    no

    Do you allow your crabs to exercise outside the tank?
    yes

    What types of foods do you feed?
    carrots, celery, raw fruits and veggies, brine shrimp, commercial foods

    What do you use as a calcium supplement?
    cuttlefish
     
  2. CoolDoggy10

    CoolDoggy10 (Large Crab)

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    Ok first you might wanna give him lots of shell his size or tad bigger. Next but him in the ISO tank with the shells so he won't get hurt by any other crab. Hope this helps.
     
  3. crabalicious

    crabalicious "Preparing For First Molt"

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    UPDATE:


    He went back in his shell, and I moved him to iso (yes with lots of shells). He's still so lethargic and I'm afraid he will die. Does anyone have any other suggestions on how else to help him?
     
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    CoolDoggy10 (Large Crab)

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    I'm sorry I really don't know.
     
  5. Poppy

    Poppy "Second Molt, A Success"

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    Just ISO with lots of shells =(
    Curious, how do you pick up a Hermie thats out of his shell? lol
     
  6. crabalicious

    crabalicious "Preparing For First Molt"

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    That's what I did. I was too afraid to pick him up without a shell, which was my main freakout when I made the first post. Thank god he went back in his shell so I could move him.
     
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    Poppy "Second Molt, A Success"

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    If my fella came out of his shell, id just move the one into ISO that still has his shell lol
     
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    crabalicious "Preparing For First Molt"

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    He's just sitting there looking pathetic. :'-(
    He won't even go in his hut. I don't want to move him or his hut around and cause anymore stress. Poor crab. I think he's my favorite. He's so active and fun usually, and loves to climb.
     
  9. WizKidsMom

    WizKidsMom "Preparing For Third Molt"

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    First do you have a small dish with salt water and another with de-chlorinated water for him?
    Does he look white or pale to you? It could be a pre molt. Get a small dish (bottle cap or small clam shell and put some honey and diced apples in it for him. Just a small tiny amount is all you need. Then place it right in front of him. See if he eats.

    You can put a hut over him. That won't hurt him, just don't pick up the hut to check on him every ten minutes.
     
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    crabalicious "Preparing For First Molt"

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    I'll do that; thanks very much. I have a feeling he's not even going to move to eat though. He's barely responsive :'-(
     
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    MoribundMaverick (Small Crab)

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    I see you're from Texas... I'm from Texas as well, and sometimes during the summer, (like right now,) my crabs get pretty lathargic and start swapping shells like crazy, trying to find a thin shell. I think it's because it gets so hot outside... They will get into very thin shells, and sometimes burry themselves for long periods of time when it's so hot out here during the summer. I feel so bad for my crabbies but there's not much I can do when it's 110 degrees outside. I can't just make it cool again... Make sure you have a lot of thin shells for them. By that I mean like those turbo ones... my crabs seem to LOVE those during the hot summers. I also put in a very large shallow bowl during the summer that takes up a good bit of space, but I fill it up with salt water. They love to spend a lot of time just laying around in the water trying to relax.
     
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    OneOnion "Preparing For Third Molt"

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    you could try putting a mini electric fan in there.:)
     
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    cococrisp "PM Jason For Custom Title"

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    Calcium and protien foods are good too. Maybe try shrimp w/ exo, peanut butter or meat.
    Good Luck.
     
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    crabalicious "Preparing For First Molt"

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    Thanks all, but he died :'-(
    He died a couple days ago, but I waited to be absolutely sure. We put him to rest today.

    Could the more aggressive crab have killed him? I didn't see any injuries or ripped off limbs. He was just so happy and full of life the day before!
     
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    Mckenny "PM Jason For Custom Title"

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    I'm so sorry that you lost your crab. :(
    His death may not have been due to anything you did, or the new crabbies did. There may have been something going on with him that he couldn't fend off anymore, it could have been something genetic, or any number of things. Unfortunately it happens to us all and leaves us scratching our heads as to what went wrong. Sometimes there just aren't any answers.

    I would try to get the temp down though. As OneOnion said about the fan, or even a table or floor fan blowing across the tank. I open my glass tops and have screen on them to keep the bugs out. I bought a small roll at Walmart and cut it down to fit, or you could go to your hardware store and ask them for their scraps from where they fixed screens. They usually have some large pieces left over that they throw away.

    Hang in there and keep us posted about your new crabbies. :)
     
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    cococrisp "PM Jason For Custom Title"

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    I'm sorry about your crab. I know you gave him a good life.
     
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    Poppy "Second Molt, A Success"

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    Im sorry about your crab, may he hermit in peace
     
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    Laughs O Lot (JUMBO CRAB)

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    I'm so sorry about your hermit crab. :( :( The same thing happened to my hermie Ocean, except she was naked when she passed. I don't have favorites, but she was my oldest crab and had a special place in my heart. I feel really bad I wasn't here to help. You did everything you could. He loves you very much and you obviously love him. He's happy playing in Hermie Heaven right now.
     
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    crabalicious "Preparing For First Molt"

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    Thank you for the kind words. I feel pretty bad since its the first crab I've lost.
     
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